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The labels just invented a word for training on your own model's outputs

Yethikrishna ROriginal on Threads

the labels just invented a word for training on your own model's outputs: laundering. umg and sony's second $9b suit argues suno v6 was trained on user interactions with earlier models that were trained on unlicensed youtube audio, carrying the infringement forward through distillation.

claiming 'trained on licensed data' stops working when the interaction data itself was polluted.

Context

Verified date: Variety (Sep 18, 2026) reports Sony Music and Universal Music Group filed a new 45-page lawsuit in the District of Massachusetts against Suno over its v6 model. The Verge (Sep 25) says the labels accuse Suno of model laundering, claiming v6 is trained on outputs of users working with earlier models.

Music Business Worldwide (Sep 22) says Suno confirmed its v6 models were trained in part on creations made by its own users.

How it compares

The second suit, the model-laundering framing and Suno's confirmation that v6 used user creations match the coverage. The $9 billion figure and the claim that the earlier models were trained on unlicensed YouTube audio were not seen in the sources read, so unsupported here, not refuted. in the excerpts read. The filing is dated Sep 18, so 'just invented a word' fits the Sep 25 coverage. 'Claiming trained on licensed data stops working' is the author's opinion.

Related work

Watch next

  • Read the complaint for the damages sought and the claim about YouTube audio.

Sources

  1. Sony Music, Universal Music Group Sue Suno Over Label-Backed Model v6, Varietyvariety.com
  2. Sony and UMG are suing Suno again, The Vergetheverge.com
  3. Suno confirms V6 model was trained on creations from users, Music Business Worldwidemusicbusinessworldwide.com

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The note above is reproduced unedited from the original post, first published on Threads on 30 September 2026 at 23:06 IST. Sources are the papers and datasets the note draws on.

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